tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post8415750416824643063..comments2024-02-17T21:46:12.329+00:00Comments on A Gurn from Nurn: Traffic Lights - Nairn's new found fame spreadsGraisghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-14109516520943057122014-02-27T17:56:55.747+00:002014-02-27T17:56:55.747+00:00Sainsbury's simply had their arm twisted to pr...Sainsbury's simply had their arm twisted to provide the cash - "planning gain" I think is the term. Now who wanted the lights? this has been examined in some detail by some of the usual suspects and if this observer remembers correctly it lies somewhere in the mists between Transport Scotland and Highland Council. Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-43691337101743436452014-02-27T13:15:47.371+00:002014-02-27T13:15:47.371+00:00As a relative newcomer to the area and recent inha...As a relative newcomer to the area and recent inhabitant of the beautiful town of Nairn, I thought that I ought to put finger to keypad and request more information on the current state of play of the A96 traffic light situation.<br /><br />Now, I do not have an issue with traffic lights per se – and I fully understand that there have been traffic lights at one or two of the intersections and Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-24386110701839005332011-04-18T07:40:48.086+00:002011-04-18T07:40:48.086+00:00@Nairnbairn - obviously the Reporter's decisio...@Nairnbairn - obviously the Reporter's decision has to be read in its entirety.<br />That wifie had to try and make sense of it all and frankly to this observer that would have been a very demanding job. <br />Perhaps yourself and other gurnites on this thread might like to pop over to the Courier article and contribute your thoughts there for the benefit of the Invercentric world too?Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-55210248072347659432011-04-18T05:57:31.448+00:002011-04-18T05:57:31.448+00:00Doesn't matter how many traffic lights Nairn i...Doesn't matter how many traffic lights Nairn is going to get - traffic management is a joke in Nairn.<br />30MPH speed limit on the Cawdor Road out to Broadley - why is that needed? <br />And yet an area of the A96 where there have been previous fatalities still has a 40MPH limit and it runs through an area where there will always be a lot of children crossing the road - unlike the Cawdor Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-64978010055814295902011-04-18T00:06:09.785+00:002011-04-18T00:06:09.785+00:00Gurn - your latest post (dated Sun 17th April) con...Gurn - your latest post (dated Sun 17th April) contains a quote that is dynamite....!<br /><br /><i> "At Transport Scotland’s request, the applicant treated a 550 house proposal at Sandown on the west side of Nairn, which was the subject of a planning application at that time, as “committed development”.... However, the Sandown scheme should not have been treated as “committed” because it nairnbairnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-82211156419351737012011-04-17T22:34:33.911+00:002011-04-17T22:34:33.911+00:00As an interested but normally passive observer of ...As an interested but normally passive observer of Gurn matters , for the first time I find myself inclined to put pen to paper, or whatever the modern version is.<br /><br />It seems that Spurtle takes an interest in town matters and somehow knew about the traffic lights, whereas most people generally don't much care about planning, except where it directly affects them or when something wombatnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-9770514977294068742011-04-17T20:47:37.403+00:002011-04-17T20:47:37.403+00:00The slightly tetchy exchange between Snails Pace a...The slightly tetchy exchange between Snails Pace and Spurtle risks confusing two issues. It should have been possible to have a Sainsburys without having all the extra lights.<br /><br />Sainsburys themselves had no reason to undertake and pay for any trunk road works other than what was required in the immediate vicinity to provide good, safe and easy access to their new store.<br /><br />It wasnairnbairnnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-49022238753716063342011-04-17T20:17:06.273+00:002011-04-17T20:17:06.273+00:00Dear Graisg after a bit of research the reference ...Dear Graisg after a bit of research the reference to Transport Scotland is in the report by Janet McNair reference NA/HLD/045. <br /><br />http://www.dpea.scotland.gov.uk/Documents/qJ970/J113691.pdf<br /><br />In particulat paragraph 3.49: <br />The applicant is also content with conditions (3)-(7) recommended by TRANSPORT SCOTLAND. These require signals at the Moss-side Road/A96 junction at the Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-84177831017451986682011-04-17T08:18:33.445+00:002011-04-17T08:18:33.445+00:00Thanks anon (10.07)more good points.
I think our ...Thanks anon (10.07)more good points.<br /><br />I think our local politicians and the high heid yin down at Holyrood, perhaps had no choice but to reflect the settled will of the people of Nairn for a supermarket fit for the new millennium. Again, at the end of the day maybe we brought it upon ourselves but as previous commentators on this blog have pointed out traffic has been growing steadily Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-8211794327674622022011-04-17T08:10:55.576+00:002011-04-17T08:10:55.576+00:00And spot on Snail's Pace. Those opposing Sains...And spot on Snail's Pace. Those opposing Sainsbury's would have presented this as the headline objection. <br />Very good point indeed!Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-40569908924725396852011-04-17T08:09:45.716+00:002011-04-17T08:09:45.716+00:00@ Snail's pace as the document linked to on th...@ Snail's pace as the document linked to on the Gurn states. <br />" Prior to the occupation of any part of the development hereby granted the following improvements to the road network shall be implemented to the satisfaction of the Council, in consultation with Transport Scotland, in accordance with the details submitted to and approved in writing by the Council;"<br /><br />Now Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-1164414487040618452011-04-16T22:07:20.295+00:002011-04-16T22:07:20.295+00:00Dear Graisg and others I write to highlight import...Dear Graisg and others I write to highlight important points: 1) Highland Council officials recommended refusal; 2) the A96 is a trunk road and Transport Scotland manages it for the Scottish Government; 3) part of the public inquiry process involves a stage where possible planning conditions and legal agreements are discussed; 4) the Reporter recommended refusal of the application; 5) Scottish Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-52731257424627854322011-04-16T20:54:45.057+00:002011-04-16T20:54:45.057+00:00I may be missing something but were the traffic co...I may be missing something but were the traffic control requirements not imposed by the Council as part of the conditions of planning approval? therefore did not actually form part of the sought after planning permission - so we never had the opportunity to exercise our opinion on them. <br /><br />I object to Spurtles stance on this as a regular member of the council tax paying community I haveSnails Pacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-82258913809742498222011-04-16T18:54:04.322+00:002011-04-16T18:54:04.322+00:00Yes people should pay more attention, including co...Yes people should pay more attention, including councillors it seems. Now:<br /><br />"Anyone who bothered their backsides to take an interest in Sainbury's proposals has no excuse when it comes to not knowing about the road issues. They were there in the public domain , before the original planning meeting held in the Court House. "<br /><br />Ok Spurtle when were traffic lights Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-46472359547959569872011-04-16T18:15:26.357+00:002011-04-16T18:15:26.357+00:00Anyone who bothered their backsides to take an int...Anyone who bothered their backsides to take an interest in Sainbury's proposals has no excuse when it comes to not knowing about the road issues. They were there in the public domain , before the original planning meeting held in the Court House. <br /><br />Particularly ironic that some of the folks griping about the traffic lights now are the same ones who jeered the people who opposed the Spurtlenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-76187645973317606712011-04-15T22:56:32.459+00:002011-04-15T22:56:32.459+00:00Thanks Nairnbairn but I don't really want to p...Thanks Nairnbairn but I don't really want to publish anything about "dishonour" in relation to traffic lights.Graisghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07238279516517079956noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-44778707050390161582011-04-15T15:42:25.300+00:002011-04-15T15:42:25.300+00:00There has to have been a systemic failure somewher...There has to have been a systemic failure somewhere with local electives for the whole thing to have got this far before folk have realised the chaos that traffic Scotland are to impose on us.<br /><br />I am sure someone in high reaches has decreed "how dare Nairn aspire to have a decent supermarket we will make them pay with traffic hell!"<br /><br />I am sure these details probably snails pacenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10213884.post-52252000977516073172011-04-15T07:14:20.515+00:002011-04-15T07:14:20.515+00:00As far as I know, the lights at Balmakeith are for...As far as I know, the lights at Balmakeith are for a pedestrian controlled crossing. Roughly opposite the knackered old horse outside Hendersons place.<br /><br />They were detailed in Transport Scotland's original documents.<br /><br />So, unless there has been a major change of plan, it's four sets of 'traffic' lights , a pedestrian crossing (with lights) & a roundaboutSpurtlenoreply@blogger.com